Saturday, January 21, 2012
GAY GUYS IN THE POOL BETWEEN TENDERNESS AND SEXUALITY
Hello Project
I opened by chance "gay
project" and I started to read, it’s really amazing for me to find myself at
ease here, nothing is too much or too little, there are just the lives of gay
guis as they are. I never thought to write to someone to talk about myself so
intimately but since there is the anonymity I opened a new email and I am
determined. I thought of writing to ask for an opinion, or just to speak about
my mind, on an issue that now is buzzing in my head a lot and that is the
relationship between sex and affection, that is meaning of the sex when you fall
in love with a boy .
I start from the beginning. I
am 21 years old, studying at university, I never had a real social life, friends
or anything like that, at school I played the play of others, I pretended to be
straight, as I think it's almost mandatory to do so, I had my little falling in
love with a mate, a straight guy, I've suffered at the beginning, then I
accepted everything. At University you can find a lot of hot guys you like but
it's like at school, all straight. We study and in practice we have nothing
better to do, even during the breaks, when teachers change, I never go out of
the classroom and spend my time re-ordering notes. At home, then fully
comedy, I’m only child, shamelessly pampered by my mom and two aunts living at
my home, not by my father who at least doesn’t asphyxiates me. At home I
haven’t any gay book or gay film. I never speak about girls, this is obvious,
but neither about guys, I can speak about my friends only for study and exams.
Apparently no one is asking too many questions. I never heard at home the
classic question: "Do you have a girlfriend?". In such an environment, guarded
in practice on sight and without any kind of occasions, for me, sexuality has
always been a problem. I cannot talk to anyone at any level and I have to be
careful not to even be in front of my TV when they send some news about gays.
They are not homophobic, just believe that gay people live on other planets and
that "we, normal people, have nothing to do with those" exact words of my aunt.
I discovered masturbation quite late, at 15, because since that time these
topics have been regularly set aside as if total ignorance could prevent who
knows what. I was so far away from sexual things that when I masturbated for the
first time and I got a lot of ejaculation I was worried because I had not really
understood what it was and thought there was something wrong and that the white
stuff was perhaps due to the fact that I gave off too much and that I had broken
something inside, maybe in the kidneys. And then I could not talk to anyone, I
was really afraid of being hurt, that I measured the fever many times because I
thought something would happen to me but nothing happened. At the time I could
not even look at the internet because I did not have a computer of mine and
search sex on my father’s computer would sound very strange to me. Then my
parents are Catholic and, at least to a certain point, even I’m, and then we
went to church on Sunday, mom and aunts were always doing the communion and I
was doing as well. In practice at 15 I went to confess every Sunday that I
masturbated, I promised myself to stop but then absolutely, I inevitably had to
fall back, in practice it was the same story every week. I never told the priest
that I was gay because that is not sin, at least I understood it. In essence, a
depressing thing, a struggle with myself that was repeated every week. Then when
I was 16 my parents gave me my first computer of my own and there I was the
mother of invention, I have studied with great care as you put the password so
no one could access my computer, I think my father would not have ever done such
things for reasons of principle (and I respect him because he respects me) but
my mother would put her hands there, and I'm sure she thinks it is the duty of a
good mother to meddle in the affairs of the son, but finally, put the password,
I could feel comfortable. I could lock myself in my room, but this would not
have been tolerated, but I had my computer where no one could be in the way of
my business. I rearranged the furniture in my room and put my desk looking
toward the door, so no one could enter without me noticing him and I placed the
location of my computer so I could have time to change the page if someone had
walked into. Internet for me meant especially pornography. At first it was just
an obsession, I could not wait, in the evening, to put myself in front of the
computer even if I had to wait until all were gone to bed. At first it was
really a frenetic hunt for free porn sites, but I was and I'm still very
selective, porn, yes, but there must be something sweet, affectionate, otherwise
I change. I took a huge collection of photos, not video, looking for my ideal
physical model of boy and then I worked on trying to build my fantasy movie with
a story of a boy, a kind of tender love story and also sex, all mixed together.
All my sexuality was reduced to masturbation and these fantasies, but I liked a
lot. I was not frustrated or thinking that I was really missing something, or at
least I did not think so until recently.
And here begins the second part
of the story. I'm pretty tall and very thin, and after a disturbing flue, the
family doctor insisted that I could practice sports. At first I just didn't want
to because I had never done such things, even as a child, then my parents
insisted and I started to think that in fact it could also have a purpose in a
sexual way, so I accepted, three times a week in a swimming pool close to my
home (I go there on foot in 20 minutes). I go there in the afternoon at 18.00 in
order to have a little free time to devote to other things. The first time I
went there to register and pay the fee I was upset: a nice place, very clean and
very well equipped, I was put at the beginners course and I did know the coach,
a guy about 25/30 maximum, beautiful, with a beautiful smile and an athletic
handshake. However it was a very short conversation. In the afternoon I bought
swimsuit, bathrobe, towel and bag, I tried the swimsuit the less compromising
and useful to defend more in case of erection and then I got just an erection
paranoia: what if it happens to me? And I started going back and forth: I'll go
or not go? And then I wondered if the showers had partitions and many other such
things, however I decided to go swimming wearing my swimsuit under my trousers
to overcome at least the first embarrassed, then, if necessary, I could get away
10 minutes before the others and go in the locker room when no one was there. I
was very uncertain, however, my parents had paid money in order to let me
practice sports and then I was expected to do so, in short, at 17.45 o'clock,
the day after, I made my entrance into the pool, the coach was there, we shook
hands with other boys. Guys more or less about my age where many, in all about a
dozen on the 15 scheduled. The coach told us to sit on the benches poolside
waiting "those" of the previous course to get out of the locker room, a course
for girls, so you cannot get in the dressing room until they have finished, the
coach told us in a mischievous smile very spontaneous, I could say typically
straight, which led me to exclude him from the number of interesting guys.
Meanwhile, I eyed three boys pretty good and in particular one of the three who
had reacted in an embarrassed way to the coach’s speech. Then after minutes we
entered the locker room I took a seat on the bench right next to that guy, I do
not know if he realized he was embarrassed but he really was. I had already my
swimsuit on and I was pretty quiet, but he put on the swimsuit there, but in a
special way. He had a very long shirt (I think he had it chosen for that very
reason), first he pulled out the edges of the shirt that practically covered the
entire "x area" then he lowered his trousers pulling them from the bottom,
without raising flaps of the shirt, then he pulled down pants with a very
similar maneuver, and put on the swimsuit and to bring it up took it form over
his shirt, in practice it all lasted no more than 10 seconds and, of course, I
saw nothing, then he took off his shirt and I've saw him with only the swimsuit
on. He was beautiful! A hundred times better than me! In the meantime I had
taken off my trousers and shirt and I was in my swimsuit too. I searched his x
zone and in practice I didn’t see anything, obviously he was so embarrassed that
the situation gave him no sexual reaction, for me it was not exactly like that,
but my swimsuit was pretty adequate and contained me fine, however I tried to
distract me to lower that principle of erection. During the lesson there were
other people, there was the coach and then I got distracted. However, the guy
threw furtive glances to me every now and then, and sometimes I even caught him
looking at me. In practice, I wondered what he would do at the end of the
lesson, if I could see him naked and what should I do with showers. Then the
time came. We went into the locker room and he repeated the same maneuver he had
done when he put on the swimsuit, exactly on the contrary, in practice it dried
his chest, put the "drop down" shirt and then took off the swimsuit, dried
himself and put on his briefs, and always under the flap of the shirt, this time
everything was very fast and I did not see anything. I put on the robe, dried
and got dressed under my bathrobe, but I can say right in the most beautiful
moment my bathrobe opened and I saw him throwing the eye over there, suddenly he
turned away and apologized. A very unusual thing in a locker room of a swimming
pool. I finished in a few seconds to get dressed, red-faced with embarrassment,
but I did not want to lose contact with him, even if, instead of seeing him, he
had been who had seen me. While he was putting things in the bag I thought to
ask him why he apologized but probably it would create embarrassment so I just
asked if it was the first time he was in the pool (stupid question), and from
there we started talking a little, he was relieved that I had not given weight
to the episode of the bathrobe. We went to the bar, had a drink then I asked if
he had a car, he said no and I offered to accompany him home because, unusually
for my habit of walking, I came by car. I took him home, rather distant, about
20 minutes by car, we spoke only of sport and training, when he left, he greeted
me with a nice handshake, very determined. I'll call him Mark, but actually he
has an unusual name that inspires me very gently. My parents at home noticed
that I got good experience in the pool and they were happy. I know Mark has
completely changed my life, not that apparent, of course, but the sexual life.
In practice it is almost completely eclipsed the era of pornography and started
the era of Mark. I'm in an immense tenderness and this is the point, it is a
sexual tenderness, practically all of my sexuality is dedicated only to him and
all my mental films have a single protagonist. I love him because it's a good
guy, if possible even more clumsy than me, but I also want him sexually, and I'm
not ashamed to say so. We were in the early days of embarrassing situations in
which I felt guilty because I had not spoken to him so clear, for example,
sometimes in the evening I called him on the phone, I told him that I could not
say too much because my parents where at home and I did not have the privacy I
wanted, but he called me a lot, usually half an hour and more and it was the
same for me, and those calls have a strong erotic value even now, when I know
he’s going to call me I go to bed and talk on the phone while masturbating under
the covers. Of all this I feel a bit guilty, because he doesn’t know, but I
would have liked him to do the same. Over time, the pool, things are a little
changed, and we became real friends, I used to take him at home and get him back
home three times a week and we talked about a lot of thing but never about
things related to sex. In the locker room the embarrassment of the first time
had slowly passed, he used no more his "drop down" shirt and changed by my side
remaining naked for a second, just like I started to do, and he used to give me
a look at that time, just as I did with him, it seams too little thing, but I
looked at him and he pretended it was nothing. At the end between us it was a
kind of sexual contact accepted. I had noticed that, as Americans would say, he
is well endowed in that department and I cannot deny that when I think about
that my blood is boiling. Then an event occurred that changed things completely.
One evening, after I drove him home, we were talking a long time in the car and
in practice we have declared each other. Before he made a long preamble that
could mean only one thing, then I asked if I could hold his hand and he said
yes, it was a close intense moment that never ended, I told him: "Do I embarrass
you if I say that I’m sexually aroused?" He said: "It happens to me too." It had
been more than five months since our first meeting. Embracing Mark, I can
finally kiss him, touch him even intimately knowing that he's fine with that and
see that there really is an experience sexuality in unison, with practically
identical reactions, I see a guy who "wants" to stay with me, I think we are a
couple and this probably will not collapse, such tings make me feel great.
Now we've been together many months and my life changed. My sexuality belongs to
Mark. Unfortunately we cannot live our feelings in the light of the sun, but
there is nothing I would change on the world for the joy of being near him,
because he's a sweet guy, a bit as I think I’m, but he is also much sensual.
When we are intimate it seems to me to dream. Unfortunately we attend different
studies and probably would have very different tasks, we live our history in
secret, and can meet once a week and spend together Saturday afternoon and
Sunday in a small house outside of town in the Apennines, the last few months it
was bitterly cold and stay embraced under the covers was just something very
tender. It's great to live together sex and tenderness. Sometimes I'm afraid
it's only a dream and that it could end at any moment, when he’s out traveling
by car I make him send me a text message every time he arrives at destination,
and I do the same with him. We must save our happiness. That's why I wanted to
tell the boys of gay project that sex and tenderness are one thing, and
happiness is possible! So brave! An affectionate greeting to you, Project, who
put on this project. Of course you can publish my mail. A hug to all my dear.
Michael
Thursday, October 6, 2011
GAY PROJECT INTERVIEWS MULTILINGUAL
After a job
far from negligible, I finally managed to network the GAY PROJECT INTERVIEWS in
a multilingual version.
You can now
browse the full site and read the cards on the basis of the order number and
you can do it in all languages, but you can also compile the test in your own
language (even other than Italian). What is crucial is that, in any language
they are written, the cards will appear in the language chosen by the reader.
For example, if a user fill out the questionnaire in American English, a
Spanish customer will read it directly translated into Spanish. It is possible
to access the interview search table, presented in the customers language. Now all
cards are in Italian, the words (or parts of words) to be inserted in the
fields to be searched must be in Italian, but if there are many cards in
English or in Spanish you could also include in the table search words or parts
of words in those languages, but in this case the search would be limited to
only English or only Spanish. In this way the online site of the interviews is
truly and completely international. Limitations exist only for the inclusion
(not for reading) of interviews in languages that do not use the Latin
alphabet, this is because the encoding of the DB is unique and is based on the
Latin alphabet.
Thank you in advance.
Friday, September 30, 2011
ONLINE INTERVIEWS ON GAY SEXUALITY AND SEXUAL ORIENTATION
SEXUAL ORIENTATION TEST- ONLINE INTERVIEWS ON GAY SEXUALITY - STATISTICS ON GAY SEXUALITY
On this page of "Project Gay"
http://progettogaysito.altervista.org/newint/index.php
you can find three distinct services:
1) The "Interviews online on gay sexuality," structured around 30 questions to which the user can respond in a totally anonymous answers of any length. In order to avoid advertising and spam, the inclusion in the interviews archive available to the public shall be subject to moderation by Gay Project. To avoid duplication of items, the "send" function is disabled for a period of time after the first shipment. The entire site is accessible and operational in many languages, users can read the interviews available in the archive directly in their language, can fill in the questionnaire that will be proposed to them in their language (the only limitation being that it is a language that uses the Latin alphabet as English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, etc..). The search functions are designed to search a data base of cards in Italian and then the research, to involve most of the cards must be based on Italian words or parts of Italian words. If you enter words or parts of words in English, for example, the search would be limited only to fill out cards in English.
2) The "Sexual orientation test online," articulated around 67 choice-questions. The test is completely anonymous. The card, once sent, is immediately inserted in the archive accessible to the public. Again, to avoid duplication of items, the send function is disabled for a period of time after the first shipment. After sending the form, the system processes a personalized answer and presents it in a special page which contains an analysis of the answers given by the user, conduct on the basis of Gay Project experience. The modules containing the answers to the tests are stored and form the basis of the statistical system of Gay Project. Anyone can complete the test, read the custom tab and read the other response cards in the archive in their own language and can also use the search function and read the results in their own language. Currently the system is still under construction and personalized responses are limited to the analysis of sexual orientation only. Gay Project will improve personalized answers gradually widening the analysis to other aspects of the test. The analysis of individual tests will also be accessible only on the basis of the number of the card, allowing users to repeat the test at a later time.
3) The "Gay Project statistics", to allow analysis of the sexual orientation test archive. Statistics can be constructed on the basis of specific requests sent directly online to the system by the user. Obviously, the statistical analysis require a large data base adequately to have a concrete meaning. Statistics can be read in the language chosen by the user.
Wednesday, September 28, 2011
GAY PROJECT INTERNATIONAL
If your language is not among those
specifically
listed above, no fear, click on the link to English and then, in the
upper part of the page, choose the language in which you want to
read the site.
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Monday, September 26, 2011
READ GAY PROJECT FORUM IN YOUR OWN LANGUAGE
GAY PROJECT FORUM
IN YOUR OWN LANGUAGE
Dear friends of Gay Project who reside outside of Italy, Gay
Project gives you a new and exciting opportunity, you can now directly read the
Gay Project Forum in you own language. Pages will appear automatically translated into
your language. In practice it is as if the Forum was fully written in your
language.
Allowed Languages:
Arabic, Bulgarian, Catalan, Czech, simplified
Chinese, traditional Conese, Korean, Danish, Hebrew, Estonian, Finnish, French,
Japanese, Greek, Haitian, Hindi, Indonesian, English, Italian, Latvian,
Lithuanian, Norwegian, Dutch, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Russian, Slovak,
Slovenian, Spanish, Swedish, Thai, German, Turkish, Ukrainian, Hungarian,
Vietnamese.
If your language is not included among those
linked explicitly below, no fear, click on the link to the Forum in English and
then, in the upper part of the page, choose the language in which you want to
read the forum.
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Dear friends of Gay Project who reside outside of Italy, Gay
Project gives you a new and exciting opportunity, you can now directly read the
Gay Project Forum in English. Pages will appear automatically translated into
English. In practice it is as if the Forum was fully written in English.
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Chers amis de Projet Gay qui résidez au dehors de l'Italie, le
Projet Gay vous offre une nouvelle et passionnante possibilité, vous pouvez
maintenant lire directement le Forum Projet Gay en Français, faisant défiler les
pages qui vont apparaître automatiquement traduites en Français. Dans la
pratique, c'est comme si le Forum avait été entièrement écrit en Français.
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Queridos amigos de Proyecto Gay que residen fuera de Italia,
el Proyecto Gay ofrece una oportunidad nueva y excitante, ahora se puede leer
directamente el foro del proyecto Gay en Español desplazándose a través de las
páginas que aparecerá automáticamente traducido en Español. En la práctica es
como si el foro fue escrito totalmente en Español.
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Liebe Freunde der Gay Projekt, wenn Sie nicht wissen Italienisch, Gay Projekt bietet eine neue Chance und spannend, können Sie jetzt direkt lesen Sie die Gay Projekt Forum in Deutsch. Die Seiten werden automatisch ins Deutsch übersetzt. In der Praxis ist es, als ob das Forum wurde komplett in Deutsch verfasst. |
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Queridos Amigos do Projeto Gay que residem fora da Itália, o
Projeto Gay oferece novas e excitantes oportunidades, agora você pode ler
diretamente o Fórum Projeto Gay em Português percorrendo as páginas que
aparecerão automaticamente traduzido em Português. Na prática, é como se o Fórum
foi totalmente escrito em Português.
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Cari amici di Progetto Gay, è ora possibile leggere l'intero Forum di Progetto Gay in moltissime lingue. Ciascuno potrà navigare tranquillamente tra le pagine che appariranno tutte direttamente nella lingua da lui scelta. In pratica, per l'utente straniero è come se il forum fosse stato scritto tutto nella sua lingua. |
Saturday, May 7, 2011
ONLINE INTERVIEWS ABOUT GAY SEXUALITY
Dear friends of Gay Project,
we started two years ago an interview online service about gay sexuality and about problems that gay people must face. The service started only in Italian but it wasn’t a really interactive service. Now the online interviews about gay sexuality have been newly structured on a different and very interactive basis.
We start today the online interviews system about gay sexuality in English.
The Gay Project "Interviews" constitute a unique source of knowledge about the real lives of gay and gay-especially not publicly declared. After two years they have been collected approximately 100 interviews online, Gay project will not only publish these interviews in a readily accessible but also enable the easy way a research topic of the interviews published. For this reason this page was created specialized that lets you:
participate in online interviews, filling out and submitting the form in conditions of complete anonymity,
read the interview published by simply inserting the card number that will be read,
perform searches based on key words in each of the fields which make up the interview form.
The interview consists of 30 open-ended questions to which they may respond by writing a text of unlimited length. Because the form is loaded you must answer all questions. To respond seriously to the questions of the interview should be a time of between 45 and 60 minutes.
To prevent misuse of the site, enter interviews will be published only after being seen by a moderator.
We reproduce below the first online interview on gay sexuality, dating back to 11 / 04/2009.
1) My age
27 years old but I do not think
2) My sexual orientation and its evolution
Until a year ago I felt 100% straight, I never even had sex with girls and I have never been in love with a girl
3) When and how I knew to be gay
I understand being gay only to 26 years, when I'm in love with a friend of mine
4) When and how I agreed to be gay
At first I did not accept at all the idea of being gay, especially in sex, and the boy walked away, but then I was missing too and I could not stay away from him
5) The difficulties I encountered in the acceptance of my gay identity
Having been in circulation always straight, at first, falling in love with a boy it seemed something unnatural
6) The hardships that I faced and I face as gay
Until now, the only difficult situations are derived from the fact that I thought my boyfriend was straight and he believed me, but have only been problems between us
7) Who knows about me
Only my boyfriend knows me, no other
8) The relationship with my parents
The relationship with my parents is good, but their gay side of me they know nothing
9) My relationship with my friends
In practice, they began to work in another city, I lost friends that I had, but know nothing about me, when I thought these guys straight, now, seeing as gay do not know how they would react
10) Where are my knowledge of reality gay
My knowledge of the gay world are especially Draft Gay seems to me that something very serious
11) My relationship with my nakedness and others
Until about two years ago I had absolutely no problems with my nakedness and that of others, doing sport and these things I was used to no effect and I did because I felt those things straight and had no sexual significance for me. Today I think I would feel embarrassed
12) My relationship with masturbation
First, until two years ago, all my fantasies were for girls, masturbation was not exciting but when I started thinking about my boyfriend to do things to change. Now we do a little 'about sex between us, that is sexual cuddles but when we are alone, masturbation remains a fundamental thing for him and for me, of course we think each other
13) My relationship with pornography
Heterosexual pornography was left totally disgusted and in practice even by the gay, with few exceptions, I like a more realistic story with a little 'about sex that a film centered around sex
14) My relationship with the sites and meetings with the erotic chats
I have never attended neither one nor the other, and I've never had even the slightest curiosity
15) As I have tried to create my own emotions / sexuality
Before I met my boyfriend when I was straight, even thought to be asexual and have never tried to accomplish anything, then, with my boyfriend, he came all by itself and in practice did not have to look for anything
16) My relationship with the girls
I first sexual fantasies about girls, but I think I knew who did it all, now I have nothing against girls but I have no friends, but for the truth even friends
17) My relationship with the kids straight
No particular problem, but I currently have straight friends, old ones do not see them most and where I work now I did not make new friends
18) My relationship with gay guys
I do not know gay guys except my boyfriend
19) What strikes me most in a boy
The smile, willingness to talk to me and shows me the respect that
20) My previous love life
A hetero-only fantasy love life
21) My current emotional situation
In practice, living with my boyfriend but no one knows
22) My emotional satisfaction
I feel as happy as I had never been in my life
23) My degree is sexual satisfaction
Sex with us because we go up some resistance, are especially pampered, but I would say that the satisfaction that I try to be embraced by him is total
24) The weight of the sex in my emotional world
Well, I'd be hypocritical to say that does not count but in practice is a way to have no secrets from each other at any level. We are going step by step, but even so it is a very important thing
25) What I want from my boy
The total loyalty, I always say what they think, without hesitation, but he does it spontaneously
26) What do you think I can give to my boyfriend
I try to be honest with him 100%, I would not do a thing for another because I love him too well
27) My wishes in relation to my love life / sexual
I just wish things never change and that my boy was always in love with me
28) My frustration in relation to my love life / sexual
At the moment I do not feel any sense of frustration, I felt when I thought he was straight and were difficult moments, but not now
29) What I would like to know about the love life / sex other gay guys
I'd like to read this questionnaire written by other boys
30) How much I feel informed about risky sexual behavior
Not much really, but neither I nor my boyfriend have never had sex with other people
participate in online interviews, filling out and submitting the form in conditions of complete anonymity,
read the interview published by simply inserting the card number that will be read,
perform searches based on key words in each of the fields which make up the interview form.
The interview consists of 30 open-ended questions to which they may respond by writing a text of unlimited length. Because the form is loaded you must answer all questions. To respond seriously to the questions of the interview should be a time of between 45 and 60 minutes.
To prevent misuse of the site, enter interviews will be published only after being seen by a moderator.
We reproduce below the first online interview on gay sexuality, dating back to 11 / 04/2009.
1) My age
27 years old but I do not think
2) My sexual orientation and its evolution
Until a year ago I felt 100% straight, I never even had sex with girls and I have never been in love with a girl
3) When and how I knew to be gay
I understand being gay only to 26 years, when I'm in love with a friend of mine
4) When and how I agreed to be gay
At first I did not accept at all the idea of being gay, especially in sex, and the boy walked away, but then I was missing too and I could not stay away from him
5) The difficulties I encountered in the acceptance of my gay identity
Having been in circulation always straight, at first, falling in love with a boy it seemed something unnatural
6) The hardships that I faced and I face as gay
Until now, the only difficult situations are derived from the fact that I thought my boyfriend was straight and he believed me, but have only been problems between us
7) Who knows about me
Only my boyfriend knows me, no other
8) The relationship with my parents
The relationship with my parents is good, but their gay side of me they know nothing
9) My relationship with my friends
In practice, they began to work in another city, I lost friends that I had, but know nothing about me, when I thought these guys straight, now, seeing as gay do not know how they would react
10) Where are my knowledge of reality gay
My knowledge of the gay world are especially Draft Gay seems to me that something very serious
11) My relationship with my nakedness and others
Until about two years ago I had absolutely no problems with my nakedness and that of others, doing sport and these things I was used to no effect and I did because I felt those things straight and had no sexual significance for me. Today I think I would feel embarrassed
12) My relationship with masturbation
First, until two years ago, all my fantasies were for girls, masturbation was not exciting but when I started thinking about my boyfriend to do things to change. Now we do a little 'about sex between us, that is sexual cuddles but when we are alone, masturbation remains a fundamental thing for him and for me, of course we think each other
13) My relationship with pornography
Heterosexual pornography was left totally disgusted and in practice even by the gay, with few exceptions, I like a more realistic story with a little 'about sex that a film centered around sex
14) My relationship with the sites and meetings with the erotic chats
I have never attended neither one nor the other, and I've never had even the slightest curiosity
15) As I have tried to create my own emotions / sexuality
Before I met my boyfriend when I was straight, even thought to be asexual and have never tried to accomplish anything, then, with my boyfriend, he came all by itself and in practice did not have to look for anything
16) My relationship with the girls
I first sexual fantasies about girls, but I think I knew who did it all, now I have nothing against girls but I have no friends, but for the truth even friends
17) My relationship with the kids straight
No particular problem, but I currently have straight friends, old ones do not see them most and where I work now I did not make new friends
18) My relationship with gay guys
I do not know gay guys except my boyfriend
19) What strikes me most in a boy
The smile, willingness to talk to me and shows me the respect that
20) My previous love life
A hetero-only fantasy love life
21) My current emotional situation
In practice, living with my boyfriend but no one knows
22) My emotional satisfaction
I feel as happy as I had never been in my life
23) My degree is sexual satisfaction
Sex with us because we go up some resistance, are especially pampered, but I would say that the satisfaction that I try to be embraced by him is total
24) The weight of the sex in my emotional world
Well, I'd be hypocritical to say that does not count but in practice is a way to have no secrets from each other at any level. We are going step by step, but even so it is a very important thing
25) What I want from my boy
The total loyalty, I always say what they think, without hesitation, but he does it spontaneously
26) What do you think I can give to my boyfriend
I try to be honest with him 100%, I would not do a thing for another because I love him too well
27) My wishes in relation to my love life / sexual
I just wish things never change and that my boy was always in love with me
28) My frustration in relation to my love life / sexual
At the moment I do not feel any sense of frustration, I felt when I thought he was straight and were difficult moments, but not now
29) What I would like to know about the love life / sex other gay guys
I'd like to read this questionnaire written by other boys
30) How much I feel informed about risky sexual behavior
Not much really, but neither I nor my boyfriend have never had sex with other people
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Thursday, November 18, 2010
SEXUALLY SELF-REPRESSED GAY GUYS
This post is to point out the mechanism of self-repression of homosexuality.
Sexual orientation is not a choice but a matter of fact, this is not the place to ask what caused it, what concerns us here is that sexual orientation has nothing to do with the personal choices, you are straight, gay or bisexual or you are not but certainly you don’t choose to be or not to be.
In dealing with issues related to sexual orientation a guy starts from unconsciousness to reach consciousness of being gay, and then comes the acceptance of being gay, if there are not external disturbing factors the transition is gradual and not traumatic and can be done with a time pattern extremely variable. There are guys that at 14 have fully accepted their homosexuality, and there are adult men who are unable to accept it even over 50 and we will soon see why.
Factors that may affect the process towards the awareness and acceptance are many and vary widely depending on age and individual condition, all of them slow down or prevent the acceptance of homosexuality and are factors of spontaneous repression of sexuality.
Before puberty it is improper to speak of homosexuality, the term has a specific meaning only after puberty when a boy begins to experience physical sexuality and discovers masturbation. This is where come the first forms of repression of sexuality, both heterosexual and gay, based on feelings of guilt related to masturbation. These are the years in which a boy considers masturbation something very private and forbidden and tries to find out spaces that allow privacy needed for a sexual exploration not put at risk by disturbing elements. The moralistic religious awareness and education, which sees sexuality as something abnormal, can repress sexuality in the bud and tie it firmly to guilt. These mechanisms apply to all boys, straight and gay, but while around 11/13 for heterosexual boys peer group tends to present heterosexual sexuality, and in particular hetero masturbation as a transgression that somehow you need to afford in order to become a man, and this relieves the repressive capacity of faith-based or family-based mechanisms and strengths the sense of belonging to the group, based on having the same sexuality of the other boys, for gay boys peer group acts in the opposite direction because gay sexuality is heavily branded with epithets of various kinds. A gay guy does not identify himself in sexual experiences of his comrades and realizes easily that while they can talk and boast about their experiences in order to be considered adults, this possibility for him is ruled out. These are the terrible years of high school, probably the most unpleasant for a gay guy who has to realize that his sexuality is not only different from that of other guys but is considered degrading and dirty. This fact often doesn’t lead to radical forms of repression of gay sexuality of younger men, but only to repression of its visible manifestations. At 14, a boy, however, does not court explicitly another boy because it affects social reactions, but usually gay masturbation sexuality is not at all conditioned by social attitudes. I should note that in most cases not even religious repression can produce feelings of guilt in younger guys about their being gay. The kids who go to church, confess that they had masturbated, not that they had masturbated with gay fantasies, that means they feel guilty the act and not the fantasy that determines it. Many kids are spontaneously so far from considering homosexuality a sin in itself that when they realize that the church condemns homosexuality, they are strongly perplexed. Basically I mean that homosexuality discovered through masturbation after puberty is influenced by constraints that hamper its external manifestations but still cannot blame it in the eyes of younger guys.
So far we dealt with children who have lived their childhood and their pre-adolescence smoothly and without any lack of affection. The speech is certainly more complicated when children grow up in stressful situations or are subjected to traumas (watching scenes of violence, suffering physical violence from family members, be unwittingly involved in sexual activities by adults). About these situations, and about children who show significant forms of anxiety or markedly depressive tone already in adolescence or about those with disorders characterized by recurrent ideas from which it does not seem possible to be free, we should broaden the discussion a lot. The period from 11 to 14 is really delicate, boys put the bases of emotional and psychological aspects of sexuality and this must happen in a calm atmosphere, free of tension and examples of family affective relations can be reference points.
But leaving aside these much more complex situations, we have to ask why the mechanisms of self-repression of gay sexuality acts more heavily on older boys and adults than on younger boys. To answer this question we must keep in mind that young boy's sexuality should be structured and built without the need to demolish anything, an older boy and an adult, who already have a structured sexuality, freeing the development of its gay sexuality, may require a process of destruction of their previous sexual identity, that means of the previous consciousness of a different sexual identity. In other words, an older boy or an adult to accept his gay sexual identity has to demolish the concept of himself as a heterosexual and has to be able to replace it with a different sense of himself as gay and all that meets considerable resistances.
Generally gay guys who have felt gay from the beginning don’t experiment stronger forms of self-repression of homosexuality, on the contrary those who have formed a consciousness of themselves as heterosexuals and are in the position of having to undermine much of the structure of their personality are usually strongly self-repressed. In essence, the real mechanisms involved in suppression of homosexuality are something that aims to protect a sexuality already structured in another way. The question that arises is, however, why a gay guy can end up structuring an hetero sexuality, that is having an image of himself as a hetero? Here the mechanism is not repressive and stems essentially from a series of errors of interpretation in which the guy falls or is induced to fall for the fact that we are immersed in a society that emphasizes heterosexual signals and neglects all those gay .
Let me give an example, considering only two symmetric situations, the first a boy who considers himself like a gay and nevertheless feels straight sexual feelings, the second a guy who considers himself heterosexual and fells sexual gay feelings. We will see that if there can be misinterpretation in both cases, the sexual repression works only in the second case, that is for the guy who has considered himself heterosexual and feels sexual gay feelings.
Sexual orientation is not a choice but a matter of fact, this is not the place to ask what caused it, what concerns us here is that sexual orientation has nothing to do with the personal choices, you are straight, gay or bisexual or you are not but certainly you don’t choose to be or not to be.
In dealing with issues related to sexual orientation a guy starts from unconsciousness to reach consciousness of being gay, and then comes the acceptance of being gay, if there are not external disturbing factors the transition is gradual and not traumatic and can be done with a time pattern extremely variable. There are guys that at 14 have fully accepted their homosexuality, and there are adult men who are unable to accept it even over 50 and we will soon see why.
Factors that may affect the process towards the awareness and acceptance are many and vary widely depending on age and individual condition, all of them slow down or prevent the acceptance of homosexuality and are factors of spontaneous repression of sexuality.
Before puberty it is improper to speak of homosexuality, the term has a specific meaning only after puberty when a boy begins to experience physical sexuality and discovers masturbation. This is where come the first forms of repression of sexuality, both heterosexual and gay, based on feelings of guilt related to masturbation. These are the years in which a boy considers masturbation something very private and forbidden and tries to find out spaces that allow privacy needed for a sexual exploration not put at risk by disturbing elements. The moralistic religious awareness and education, which sees sexuality as something abnormal, can repress sexuality in the bud and tie it firmly to guilt. These mechanisms apply to all boys, straight and gay, but while around 11/13 for heterosexual boys peer group tends to present heterosexual sexuality, and in particular hetero masturbation as a transgression that somehow you need to afford in order to become a man, and this relieves the repressive capacity of faith-based or family-based mechanisms and strengths the sense of belonging to the group, based on having the same sexuality of the other boys, for gay boys peer group acts in the opposite direction because gay sexuality is heavily branded with epithets of various kinds. A gay guy does not identify himself in sexual experiences of his comrades and realizes easily that while they can talk and boast about their experiences in order to be considered adults, this possibility for him is ruled out. These are the terrible years of high school, probably the most unpleasant for a gay guy who has to realize that his sexuality is not only different from that of other guys but is considered degrading and dirty. This fact often doesn’t lead to radical forms of repression of gay sexuality of younger men, but only to repression of its visible manifestations. At 14, a boy, however, does not court explicitly another boy because it affects social reactions, but usually gay masturbation sexuality is not at all conditioned by social attitudes. I should note that in most cases not even religious repression can produce feelings of guilt in younger guys about their being gay. The kids who go to church, confess that they had masturbated, not that they had masturbated with gay fantasies, that means they feel guilty the act and not the fantasy that determines it. Many kids are spontaneously so far from considering homosexuality a sin in itself that when they realize that the church condemns homosexuality, they are strongly perplexed. Basically I mean that homosexuality discovered through masturbation after puberty is influenced by constraints that hamper its external manifestations but still cannot blame it in the eyes of younger guys.
So far we dealt with children who have lived their childhood and their pre-adolescence smoothly and without any lack of affection. The speech is certainly more complicated when children grow up in stressful situations or are subjected to traumas (watching scenes of violence, suffering physical violence from family members, be unwittingly involved in sexual activities by adults). About these situations, and about children who show significant forms of anxiety or markedly depressive tone already in adolescence or about those with disorders characterized by recurrent ideas from which it does not seem possible to be free, we should broaden the discussion a lot. The period from 11 to 14 is really delicate, boys put the bases of emotional and psychological aspects of sexuality and this must happen in a calm atmosphere, free of tension and examples of family affective relations can be reference points.
But leaving aside these much more complex situations, we have to ask why the mechanisms of self-repression of gay sexuality acts more heavily on older boys and adults than on younger boys. To answer this question we must keep in mind that young boy's sexuality should be structured and built without the need to demolish anything, an older boy and an adult, who already have a structured sexuality, freeing the development of its gay sexuality, may require a process of destruction of their previous sexual identity, that means of the previous consciousness of a different sexual identity. In other words, an older boy or an adult to accept his gay sexual identity has to demolish the concept of himself as a heterosexual and has to be able to replace it with a different sense of himself as gay and all that meets considerable resistances.
Generally gay guys who have felt gay from the beginning don’t experiment stronger forms of self-repression of homosexuality, on the contrary those who have formed a consciousness of themselves as heterosexuals and are in the position of having to undermine much of the structure of their personality are usually strongly self-repressed. In essence, the real mechanisms involved in suppression of homosexuality are something that aims to protect a sexuality already structured in another way. The question that arises is, however, why a gay guy can end up structuring an hetero sexuality, that is having an image of himself as a hetero? Here the mechanism is not repressive and stems essentially from a series of errors of interpretation in which the guy falls or is induced to fall for the fact that we are immersed in a society that emphasizes heterosexual signals and neglects all those gay .
Let me give an example, considering only two symmetric situations, the first a boy who considers himself like a gay and nevertheless feels straight sexual feelings, the second a guy who considers himself heterosexual and fells sexual gay feelings. We will see that if there can be misinterpretation in both cases, the sexual repression works only in the second case, that is for the guy who has considered himself heterosexual and feels sexual gay feelings.
A gay guy, that is, a guy who has a gay masturbation, which is in a sexual situation involving a girl, goes to the erection, can experiment sexual desire for that girl, may even get to have sex with her, even engaging sex. Based on the model of interpretation related to the sexual "behavior" all that leads to the deduction: "I can have sex with a girl in a pleasant way, so I'm straight!" This reasoning is comforting because, inter alia, shall release the boy from complications of being gay and is reassuring in terms of social acceptance. Underestimating gay masturbation sexuality in favor of heterosexual couple sex in order to identify sexual orientation does not operate any form of repression.
If we consider a guy who has always felt straight, that is, with masturbation and with a couple sexuality consistently straight, and hypothesize that this guy starts to feel sexually attracted to another guy, to the point of masturbating thinking about that guy or even have sex with him, we'll “not” automatically deduct: "I'm sexually attracted to a guy, so I'm gay!" because in this case the deduction would be destabilizing, and to accept it the guy should deconstruct the vision of himself as a heterosexual to replace it with a vision of himself as gay. These are the typical situations in which triggers the repression of gay sexuality. The guy who thinks he's hetero stops to meet the guy who awakes his sexual responses because this way the risk of destabilizing his own sexuality decreases, but usually this is not enough, he even forcibly stops masturbating because his masturbation would be gay, something that undermines his sexual straight identity.
I want to emphasize a key element: repression of gay sexuality has two complementary aspects: the first is expressed in avoiding every occasion of gay sexual arousal and the second manifests itself in a heightened level of heterosexual couple activity, the latter mechanism leads often to neurotic reactions because it is not desired for reasons of sexual affection but related mechanisms for confirmation of sexual identity. In some cases, the repression of sexuality leads to irrevocable decisions as gay marriage, which is considered in these cases like a medicine of homosexuality, it makes no sense under any point of view. Homosexuality, however repressed, ends up sooner or later to return to the surface.
I add another important thing. To push forcefully toward heterosexuality gay guys who repress their homosexuality in favor of a possible couple relationship and of a heterosexual marriage are often girls who do not have the foggiest idea of what homosexuality really is and who feel ready to lead, or trying to encourage their guys to exclusive heterosexuality on the basis of women seductive arts. These things, at first, seem also to be successful because the elimination of gay sexuality is compensated by a more intense and hetero sexuality and heterosexuality is more socially accepted and encouraged and gives the feeling of being really straight. But by far the mechanism is worn and often the same girls who have encouraged their gay guys to the marriage find themselves in positions of stark contrast with their husbands they can not in any way accept like homosexuals. A heterosexual woman marries a man because she thinks that he isn’t gay or at least that is no more gay, because she identifies the guy's sexual orientation with sexual behavior she can see and not with the sexual desires that she cannot see, when she discovers that her husband is actually gay and that in a marital situation he feels uncomfortable she gets angry with her husband and considers him like a marriage traitor, but really, if the guy said how things were before marriage and the girl came to her decision to marry the same, often family members and personages of various kinds are involved, they not knowing anything about homosexuality are as trusted advisors in such a sensitive area.
A final consideration. From the repression of homosexuality tied to the mechanisms we have described above it’s possible to exit only if the environment is favorable and if a gay man has the courage to say the truth, what can never be taken for granted. There are people who prefer to repress or perhaps don’t have in fact any choice. In any case you cannot replace a repressed gay and try to get him out of his sexual repression on the basis of your way of seeing things. Get out of self-imposed sexual repression is not easy. And you can’t take for sure that it could have always a positive result without the required conditions.
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