Thursday, November 18, 2010


This post is to point out the mechanism of self-repression of homosexuality.

Sexual orientation is not a choice but a matter of fact, this is not the place to ask what caused it, what concerns us here is that sexual orientation has nothing to do with the personal choices, you are straight, gay or bisexual or you are not but certainly you don’t choose to be or not to be.

In dealing with issues related to sexual orientation a guy starts from unconsciousness to  reach consciousness of being gay, and then comes the acceptance of being gay, if there are not external disturbing factors the transition is gradual and not traumatic and can be done with a time pattern extremely variable. There are guys that at 14 have fully accepted their homosexuality, and there are adult men who are unable to accept it even over 50 and we will soon see why.

Factors that may affect the process towards the awareness and acceptance are many and vary widely depending on age and individual condition, all of them slow down or prevent the acceptance of homosexuality and are factors of spontaneous repression of sexuality.

Before puberty it is improper to speak of homosexuality, the term has a specific meaning only after puberty when a boy begins to experience physical sexuality and discovers masturbation. This is where come the first forms of repression of sexuality, both heterosexual and gay, based on feelings of guilt related to masturbation. These are the years in which a boy considers masturbation something very private and forbidden and tries to find out spaces that allow privacy needed for a sexual exploration not put at risk by disturbing elements. The moralistic religious awareness and education, which sees sexuality as something abnormal, can repress sexuality in the bud and tie it firmly to guilt. These mechanisms apply to all boys, straight and gay, but while around 11/13 for heterosexual boys peer group tends to present heterosexual sexuality, and in particular hetero masturbation as a transgression that somehow you need to afford in order to become a man, and this relieves the repressive capacity of faith-based or family-based mechanisms and strengths the sense of belonging to the group, based on having the same sexuality of the other boys, for gay boys peer group acts in the opposite direction because gay sexuality is heavily branded with epithets of various kinds. A gay guy does not identify himself in sexual experiences of his comrades and realizes easily that while they can talk and boast about their experiences in order to be considered adults, this possibility for him is ruled out. These are the terrible years of high school, probably the most unpleasant for a gay guy who has to realize that his sexuality is not only different from that of other guys but is considered degrading and dirty. This fact often doesn’t lead to radical forms of repression of gay sexuality of younger men, but only to repression of its visible manifestations. At 14, a boy, however, does not court explicitly another boy because it affects social reactions, but usually gay masturbation sexuality is not at all conditioned by social attitudes. I should note that in most cases not even religious repression can produce feelings of guilt in younger guys about their being gay. The kids who go to church, confess that they had masturbated, not that they had masturbated with gay fantasies, that means they feel guilty the act and not the fantasy that determines it. Many kids are spontaneously so far from considering homosexuality a sin in itself that when they realize that the church condemns homosexuality, they are strongly perplexed. Basically I mean that homosexuality discovered through masturbation after puberty is influenced by constraints that hamper its external manifestations but still cannot blame it in the eyes of younger guys.

So far we dealt with children who have lived their childhood and their pre-adolescence smoothly and without any lack of affection. The speech is certainly more complicated when children grow up in stressful situations or are subjected to traumas (watching scenes of violence, suffering physical violence from family members, be unwittingly involved in sexual activities by adults). About these situations, and about children who show significant forms of anxiety or markedly depressive tone already in adolescence or about those with disorders characterized by recurrent ideas from which it does not seem possible to be free, we should broaden the discussion a lot. The period from 11 to 14 is really delicate, boys put the bases of emotional and psychological aspects of sexuality and this must happen in a calm atmosphere, free of tension and examples of family affective relations can be reference points.

But leaving aside these much more complex situations, we have to ask why the mechanisms of self-repression of gay sexuality acts more heavily on older boys and adults than on younger boys. To answer this question we must keep in mind that young boy's sexuality should be structured and built without the need to demolish anything, an older boy and an adult, who already have a structured sexuality, freeing the development of its gay sexuality, may require a process of destruction of their previous sexual identity, that means of the previous consciousness of a different sexual identity. In other words, an older boy or an adult to accept his gay sexual identity has to demolish the concept of himself as a heterosexual and has to be able to replace it with a different sense of himself as gay and all that meets considerable resistances.

Generally gay guys who have felt gay from the beginning don’t experiment stronger forms of self-repression of homosexuality, on the contrary those who have formed a consciousness of themselves as heterosexuals and are in the position of having to undermine much of the structure of their personality are usually strongly self-repressed. In essence, the real mechanisms involved in suppression of homosexuality are something that aims to protect a sexuality already structured in another way. The question that arises is, however, why a gay guy can end up structuring an hetero sexuality, that is having an image of himself as a hetero? Here the mechanism is not repressive and stems essentially from a series of errors of interpretation in which the guy falls or is induced to fall for the fact that we are immersed in a society that emphasizes heterosexual signals and neglects all those gay .

Let me give an example, considering only two symmetric situations, the first a boy who considers himself like a gay and nevertheless feels straight sexual feelings, the second a guy who considers himself heterosexual and fells sexual gay feelings. We will see that if there can be misinterpretation in both cases, the sexual repression works only in the second case, that is for the guy who has considered himself heterosexual and feels sexual gay feelings.
A gay guy, that is, a guy who has a gay masturbation, which is in a sexual situation involving a girl, goes to the erection, can experiment sexual desire for that girl, may even get to have sex with her, even engaging sex. Based on the model of interpretation related to the sexual "behavior" all that leads to the deduction: "I can have sex with a girl in a pleasant way, so I'm straight!" This reasoning is comforting because, inter alia, shall release the boy from complications of being gay and is reassuring in terms of social acceptance. Underestimating gay masturbation sexuality in favor of heterosexual couple sex in order to identify sexual orientation does not operate any form of repression.

If we consider a guy who has always felt straight, that is, with masturbation and with a couple sexuality consistently straight, and hypothesize that this guy starts to feel sexually attracted to another guy, to the point of masturbating thinking about that guy or even have sex with him, we'll “not” automatically deduct: "I'm sexually attracted to a guy, so I'm gay!" because in this case the deduction would be destabilizing, and to accept it the guy should deconstruct  the vision of himself as a heterosexual to replace it with a vision of himself as gay. These are the typical situations in which triggers the repression of gay sexuality. The guy who thinks he's hetero stops to meet the guy who awakes his sexual responses because this way the risk of destabilizing his own sexuality decreases, but usually this is not enough, he even forcibly stops masturbating because his masturbation would be gay, something that undermines his sexual straight identity.

I want to emphasize a key element: repression of gay sexuality has two complementary aspects: the first is expressed in avoiding every occasion of gay sexual arousal and the second manifests itself in a heightened level of heterosexual couple activity, the latter mechanism leads often to neurotic reactions because it is not desired for reasons of sexual affection but related mechanisms for confirmation of sexual identity. In some cases, the repression of sexuality leads to irrevocable decisions as gay marriage, which is considered in these cases like a medicine of homosexuality, it makes no sense under any point of view. Homosexuality, however repressed, ends up sooner or later to return to the surface.

I add another important thing. To push forcefully toward heterosexuality gay guys who repress their homosexuality in favor of a possible couple relationship and of a heterosexual marriage are often girls who do not have the foggiest idea of what homosexuality really is and who feel ready to lead, or trying to encourage their guys to exclusive heterosexuality on the basis of women seductive arts. These things, at first, seem also to be successful because the elimination of gay sexuality is compensated by a more intense and hetero sexuality and heterosexuality is more socially accepted and encouraged and gives the feeling of being really straight. But by far the mechanism is worn and often the same girls who have encouraged their gay guys to the marriage find themselves in positions of stark contrast with their husbands they can not in any way accept like homosexuals. A heterosexual woman marries a man because she thinks that he isn’t gay or at least that is no more gay, because she identifies the guy's sexual orientation with sexual behavior she can see and not with the sexual desires that she cannot see, when she discovers that her husband is actually gay and that in a marital situation he feels uncomfortable she gets angry with her husband and considers him like a marriage traitor, but really, if the guy said how things were before marriage and the girl came to her decision to marry the same, often family members and personages of various kinds are involved, they not knowing anything about homosexuality are as trusted advisors in such a sensitive area.

A final consideration. From the repression of homosexuality tied to the mechanisms we have described above it’s possible to exit only if the environment is favorable and if a gay man has the courage to say the truth, what can never be taken for granted. There are people who prefer to repress or perhaps don’t have in fact any choice. In any case you cannot replace a repressed gay and try to get him out of his sexual repression on the basis of your way of seeing things. Get out of self-imposed sexual repression is not easy. And you can’t take for sure that it could have always a positive result without the required conditions.


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Thursday, November 4, 2010


Hallo Project,

I’m a 25 y. o. guy. I came to U.S. few months ago in order to reach my goal and get specialized in high energy physics. I came from Eastern Europe and I was used to speak English during my university training. I think my English could sound very strange to native English speakers. I’m sorry, I don’t speak Italian al all. I got in touch with Gay Project only reading the English blog “Not only gay”. I got there by chance searching for “Maurice” the novel by Forster on Google. At that time I was searching for novels to read in English in order to improve my reading and my vocabulary. Well, that’s why I got in touch with your blog. Clearly I like better improve my English reading gay novels because I’m gay. On “Not only gay” I got your novel “Only seven days”, something that troubled me deeply. In my home country I had an excellent education at all but I missed the very essential thing. Basically I was forced to deal alone with my homosexuality, because I've never had anyone to talk seriously about these things. Up to 24 y. o., I simply removed the problem and I pretended that there wasn’t any problem. I was always studying, I had to think of anything else and so I walked away from the idea of being gay, or rather I was trying to convince myself more and more to be straight. In my country I had a girlfriend and I told her again and again that we could not get married because I would have gone abroad to study and she would not have been able to follow.

I now begin to understand that in fact my desire to go to study abroad was largely due to the idea to get away from her. She is a girl that I admire but I don’t love. I think if I get the chance, I'll stay to live in the U.S.. For the moment I still have much to study and study hard. But I'm starting to open my eyes about myself and about life that I have done until now. I do not like pornography, I'd really like to talk about homosexuality in a serious way. As I told you I do not speak Italian but I tried to read the English translation of your posts through Google translator, it’s not the best but at least I could follow your arguments.AscoltaTrascrizione fonetica

Well, now you understand how I came up with "gay project”. I have many things to ask, but first I must tell you a little about me. Basically my sexuality was just straight up to 23. I tell you “basically”, because I had a girl and had normal sexual intercourse with her but also, despite everything, I was still attracted to guys, I did not want to accept it, but it was so. I have come to deny even the most obvious things, even my sexual desire, I have completely removed the masturbation because my fantasies ran toward the boys and I could not accept such a thing. I was taught that sex was a bad thing, dirty, ugly, and I could not think otherwise. I read that many guys have lived similar things and I found myself in some of your posts.

Now I'm slowly discovering my sexuality but everything remains at the level of masturbation, I do not think in any case I could have sexual intercourse with a boy, it's as if his physical contact disgusts me. And then there's the other big problem, I have never been in love with a guy, with the girls I am comfortable with the guys I feel deeply uncomfortable and I cannot see a boy as a love object but only as an object of sexual interest. I do not know if this situation may change over time, but now I'm 25 and I fear that things will not change. I have few friends here in the U.S., I have colleagues who are very serious people, but they are all straight, or so it seems, and I don’t think I could talk freely with them of my things. What can I expect from the future? just study and never affective and sexual life? Now I'm working hard to specialize and to find work as soon as possible but I also want to start living my life from other points of view. I see that others live their lives peacefully, but I think I have only to study because I cannot live things I still dream. When I go to bed I dream of hugging a guy, a guy who was my boyfriend, but I have no boyfriend and dreams remain dreams. I don’t want to start looking for a guy here, don’t even know the language well and outside the university I still feel like a foreigner.

I think you understood my problem well enough, if you can, answer me in private. If you want, publish this email as well, but if you can, try to answer me by mail.

A hug.

B. K.
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Monday, November 1, 2010


Hi, my nickname is project, on August 2007 I started “Gay Project” in Italian “Progetto Gay”, something I can’t even define, community without association, organization without staff and structure, or simply a variable group of friends, in fact around some web sites (forum, chat and blog) there is now a little community of gay people. Nothing to do with sex chats or dating sites, only guys that meet on the chat and write posts to the forum. Now our irc chat service has been internationalized and everyone can join the chat from everywhere in the world. We are Italian guys and we usually chat in Italian but we can also speak English of French if necessary and Spanish in very similar to Italian in the vocabulary and also in the grammar. No problem if you write in your own language because the chat provides online translation from Italian into your language and vice versa. On our pages with links to the chat you can find the clock with Rome time. You can find people on the chat in the afternoon e in the night till two after midnight, Rome time. We’d like to enjoy chatting with friends from over the world and if you are also interested in learning spoken Italian you have a good chance to improve your Italian chatting with Italian gay friends. We’re waiting for you! See you soon on Gay Project Chat!

Hola, mi apodo es project, en agosto de 2007 empecé a "Proyecto Gay" en italiano "Progetto Gay", algo que ni siquiera puede definir, comunidad sin asociación, organización sin personal y estructura, o simplemente un grupo variable de amigos, de hecho en torno a algunos sitios web (foro, chat y blog) ahora hay una pequeña comunidad de personas homosexuales. Nada que ver con sitios web y chat erótico. Ahora nuestro servicio de chat IRC se ha internacionalizado y todo el mundo puede unirse a la conversación de todas partes del mundo. Somos chicos italianos y utilizamos la lengua italiana para el chat, pero también se puede hablar Inglés o Francés en caso necesario y español muy similar al italiano en el vocabulario y la gramática. No hay problema si usted escribe en su propio idioma, porque el chat ofrece servicios de traducción en línea del italiano en su idioma y viceversa. En nuestras páginas con enlaces a los chat se puede encontrar el reloj con el tiempo de Roma. Usted puede encontrar a gente en el chat en el correo por la tarde en la noche hasta las dos después de la medianoche, hora de Roma. Nos gustaría disfrutar charlando con amigos de todo el mundo y si también están interesados en aprender italiano hablado usted tiene una buena oportunidad para mejorar su italiano en el chat con amigos gays italianos. Esperamos verte pronto en el chat! Nos vemos pronto en el Chat Proyecto Gay!


Salut, mon pseudo est projet, en août 2007, j'ai commencé "Gay Projet" en italien "Progetto Gay", quelque chose que je ne peux même pas définir, communauté sans association, organisation sans personnel et structure, ou tout simplement un groupe variable de copains, en fait autour de certains sites web (forum, chat et le blog) il y à maintenant une petite communauté des personnes gaies. Rien à voir avec les chats de sexe ou les sites de rencontre, les gars répondent seulement aux messages dans le chat et dans le forum. Maintenant, notre service de chat IRC a été internationalisé et tout le monde peut rejoindre le chat de partout dans le monde. Nous sommes gars italien et nous avons l'habitude de chatter en italien, mais nous pouvons aussi parler anglais ou français s’il est nécessaire et aussi espagnol, très semblable à l'italien dans le vocabulaire et la grammaire. Pas de problème si vous écrivez dans votre propre langue parce que le chat en ligne permet de traduire de l'italien dans votre langue et vice versa. Sur nos pages avec des liens vers le chat, vous pouvez trouver l'horloge avec le temps de Rome. Vous pouvez trouver des gens sur le chat dans l’après-midi et dans la nuit jusqu'à deux heures après minuit, heure de Rome. Nous aimerions profiter de bavarder avec des amis de partout dans le monde et si vous êtes également intéressés à apprendre la langue italienne parlée vous avez une bonne chance d'améliorer votre italien en bavardant avec des amis gay italiens. Nous vous attendons! A bientôt sur le Chat de Projet Gay!

Ciao, il mio nickname è il project, nell’agosto 2007 ho dato avvio a "Progetto Gay", qualcosa che non riesco nemmeno a definire, comunità senza associazione, organizzazione senza personale e struttura, o semplicemente un gruppo di amici variabile, infatti intorno ad alcuni siti web (forum, chat e blog) ora esiste una piccola comunità di persone gay. Niente a che vedere con le chat o i siti di incontri, solo ragazzi che si incontrano in chat e scrivono sul forum. Ora il nostro servizio di chat IRC è stato internazionalizzato e tutti possono partecipare alla chat da tutto il mondo. Siamo ragazzi italiani e di solito chattiamo in italiano, ma possiamo anche parlare inglese o francese se necessario e lo spagnolo è molto simile all’Italiano nel vocabolario e nella grammatica. Nessun problema se scrivete nella vostra lingua, perché la chat fornisce la traduzione on-line dall’italiano nella vostra lingua e viceversa. Sulle nostre pagine con i link alla chat è possibile trovare l'orologio con il tempo di Roma. Potete trovare le persone in chat nel pomeriggio e nella serata fino alle due dopo mezzanotte, tempo di Roma. Vorremmo chattare con gli amici da tutto il mondo e se siete anche interessati ad imparare lingua italiana parlata avete una buona occasione per migliorare il vostro italiano chattando con amici gay italiani. Vi stiamo aspettando! A presto su Progetto Gay Chat!